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Post by Vessehune on Oct 9, 2003 15:17:28 GMT -5
I just had my lesson yesterday. My turmpet prof. is now on a kick of matching a mouthpiece to a person's air column (one of his newest theories). I had been playing on a GR 67M, but I found that my sound and the ease of production was so much better on a Monette B1-5M. This after I spent the extra money to get a Goldplated 67M!! Just had to vent my frustration!!!  |
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Post by dizforprez on Oct 9, 2003 16:45:38 GMT -5
where do you go to school at?
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Post by Vessehune on Oct 9, 2003 18:18:09 GMT -5
I go to Washington State University!! Home of the #12 in the nation Cougars. And home of the Best in the West Cougar Marching Band!!!
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Post by Gnostic on Oct 9, 2003 18:55:30 GMT -5
Yeah I am sure we have all been there at one time or another. The good thing is you found something that works well for you and is much easier to play.  David |
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Post by jamesfrmphilly on Oct 9, 2003 21:13:46 GMT -5
check out the Kanstul copies of the Monettes  |
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Post by Vessehune on Oct 10, 2003 12:18:56 GMT -5
It doesn't look like Kanstul had anything larger than a B2.
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Post by Trptmaster on Oct 10, 2003 13:32:47 GMT -5
a B2 is going to be a big piece. you could drive a bus through a B11. What are you looking for?
TM
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Post by romey1 on Oct 10, 2003 13:51:22 GMT -5
I would be skeptical of any teacher insisting that you change to a certain mouthpiece.
romey
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Post by Vessehune on Oct 10, 2003 22:28:05 GMT -5
Tptmaster- I'm looking for a B1-5M.
Romey- We actually experimented with several mouthpieces. My prof. has been switching everyone in the studio. Some people he is putting on smaller equipment others maybe a little larger. He is doing this because of a new kick he has been on. He is trying to match the players natural air column with a mouthpiece. Since I'm a pretty big guy we both think that I have a large air column, and I played the easiest with the best sound on teh B1-5M. It's funny to hear him say how all of his past ideas about mouthpieces has gone out the window. He thinks that there is a right mouthpeice out there for every player, some will play on small equipment others will play on large equipment.
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Post by BruceLee on Oct 11, 2003 12:20:28 GMT -5
"He thinks that there is a right mouthpeice out there for every player, some will play on small equipment others will play on large equipment."
Too bad that the 67M didn't work... especially since you bought it in gold... ouch!
GR's 3 Basic Rules of Brass playing: You must have all of these working, beware of #3. If you like to change horns a lot you may need many mouthpieces to keep this match correct for the different horns or the gap may need to be adjusted to the dimensions on the GR website for each horn.
1. The lips must be supple and free to vibrate without unnatural impingement or manipulation, cushion is required.
2. You need a constant supply of uninterrupted air flow that is supported. The air column must be free from impingement and manipulation.
3. There must be a match between the player, horn, and mouthpiece. If one changes the others must be able to accommodate the change or be changed as well.
I'm guessing that some of the above criteria wasn't met. The 67M has more of a "commercial" backbore on it, as opposed to the "symphonic" backbore of the 67L or LX, which may have been a better match. I think that's where your teacher was going with this.
Best always,
Bruce
GR Technologies/Northern Brass Mouthpieces
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Post by romey1 on Oct 11, 2003 12:46:03 GMT -5
Brian,
I would find the rim that fits you best first, then experiment with other stuff to match your "airstream."
Monette throats are huge - if you can make it work fine, but be careful that articulation doesn't suffer.
I don't think you need to be playing anything bigger than a 24 throat - even that is big, but should be more than big enough to accomodate a healthy airstream.
I once heard Cichowicz say that you don't need to play anything bigger than a 3C until you get into a big orchestra.
If you have thick lips, that's a different story.
If you are a big guy, then go for it - I would just try to find the best compromise between efficiency and what helps you best get the sound you are going for.
Good luck with your search!
romey
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Post by Happy Canuck on Oct 13, 2003 4:01:17 GMT -5
Concerning sizes, at the Jens Lindemann Masters Class in Toronto 2 weeks ago his general statement was.
"No one needs to play a mouthpiece with either a 1 or a number greater than 10 in the size".
When we asked about his MP size he is playing "about a 7C".
He certainly gets a great sound!
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